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Post by GaBoy on Oct 16, 2019 16:44:24 GMT
Hello, I am new to the Renogy product line, and we are using the components for a non-conventional battery power supply system. Our project components consist of:
- Renogy 100a LiPhos battery (12v) - Wanderer 20a controller - 20a Li-Phos compatible charger.
Wiring seems pretty straight-forward, charger to correct terminals on Wandering, and Battery on the other side. However, even with a full charge, and an inverter running a 400w fan from the output, we always get 0.0 on the Amps and Amp-Hour display screen. Voltage display and temperature display seems to work fine. Is there something I am missing here? Polarity is correct, and the same behavior exists even when the charger is completely disconnected.
Also, I read on a user review somewhere that the temp sensor can't be used in conjunction with a Li-Phos battery, is this correct? It seems to be working fine.
And last thing, can the temp setting be changed from Celsius to Fahrenheit?
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Post by GaBoy on Oct 16, 2019 17:08:31 GMT
Whoops, my controller is the Voyager, not Wanderer.
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Post by tattoo on Oct 16, 2019 18:42:50 GMT
And last thing, can the temp setting be changed from Celsius to Fahrenheit? Nope not yet anyways..............
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Post by mediadogg on Oct 17, 2019 13:56:42 GMT
If you are using the Voyager without solar panels, then indeed you are supplying 0.0 AMPs and thereby accumulating 0.0 AH from the charge controller. The charging function of the Voyager is not being used. The charger is keeping the battery re-supplied, and the load is running from the battery / charger when the charger is plugged in. So it seems you are using the Voyager as an expensive battery voltage / temperature monitor? You might want to consider one or two of these. You can connect it to either monitor what the battery is drawing from the charger, or what the load is drawing from the system, or use two for both. The Voyager then becomes a temperature sensor only, until you find a standalone one, or you get solar panels to begin to use the CC for its main intended purpose. I have never used a standlone temperature monitoe, hence I didn't recommend one. But I have used a couple of those VA sensors for years. They work great.
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Post by tattoo on Oct 17, 2019 14:28:56 GMT
So it seems you are using the Voyager as an expensive battery voltage / temperature monitor? Yep that's what I was thinking also................ It's only going to work for a short time if the power were to go out...........
So why bother? ?
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Post by mediadogg on Oct 17, 2019 14:39:37 GMT
So it seems you are using the Voyager as an expensive battery voltage / temperature monitor? Yep that's what I was thinking also................ It's only going to work for a short time if the power were to go out...........
So why bother? ? Well such a system would have the capacity to run a very sensitive load for long enough to take action in a power failure. For example, a monster server (hundreds of watts) could run easily long enough to close applications and gracefully shut down the operating system if necessary. Kind of like a mega-UPS. Not sure if his system is any better than an off-the-shelf UPS, but I do see how it could be useful. Or even in a healthcare or security environment, having 1200WH of energy, depending on the load, would give staff enough time to take action when the power outage alarm goes off.
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Post by tattoo on Oct 17, 2019 18:23:15 GMT
Well such a system would have the capacity to run a very sensitive load for long enough to take action in a power failure. I hope we hear back from him..... I'd like to know what he's using it for? ? ?
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raydas
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Post by raydas on Oct 17, 2019 20:22:25 GMT
In the OP scenario, I am wondering why he even has the Wanderer CC, at all. I would imagine his next step is to hook up a solar panel.
Thinking about this, if you were to hook up battery charger to the Panel terminals, on the CC, would that be a better charging method than using the battery charger directly connected to battery.
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Post by mediadogg on Oct 17, 2019 20:38:45 GMT
In the OP scenario, I am wondering why he even has the Wanderer CC, at all. I would imagine his next step is to hook up a solar panel. Thinking about this, if you were to hook up battery charger to the Panel terminals, on the CC, would that be a better charging method than using the battery charger directly connected to battery. At the risk of being "reported" again, this is absolute nonsense. I hope nobody even thinks about ruining valuable equipment by trying such a thing.
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Post by raydas on Oct 17, 2019 20:47:20 GMT
I just wanted to get that out there, just in case somebody was thinking along those lines. Not everybody that visits this site is an expert, who knows maybe somebody has already tried it, but is not reporting back here.
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Post by mediadogg on Oct 17, 2019 22:08:04 GMT
I just wanted to get that out there, just in case somebody was thinking along those lines. Not everybody that visits this site is an expert, who knows maybe somebody has already tried it, but is not reporting back here. And that is exactly why we should be careful about appearing to be experts when we are not. Renogy insists on rewarding lots of posts with a badge that indicates expertise. We can't change that. But at least we can respect that fact that they are assuming that people who post a lot are lending knowledge and expertise. We all have lots to learn, and we all make mistakes. But if a mistake is made after careful study, and the best attempts to get it right, that's kind of different from "just plug it in and see if you get a spark."
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Post by raydas on Oct 17, 2019 22:41:48 GMT
I do not claim to be an expert. Sometimes I post ideas, not even sure if it would be feasible, hoping somebody might come back and say it's idiocy, just like you said in previous post. Or maybe somebody that has tried it might come back and say, yes it works, but not very practical, or ... If someone claims it's idiocy, then I would hope they have some finer detail to present their thoughts about why it would not work. I guess calling an idea pure idiocy is just about the quickest form of dismissal.
"Solar Devotee" does not connote, being an expert, in my opinion, nor does the post count.
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Post by tattoo on Oct 17, 2019 22:56:42 GMT
At the risk of being "reported" again, Damn you were reported? For what? I've never seen you do anything that you should have been reported for............ Now me? LOL
Plus who the hell would you report someone to? I didn't think anyone was watching close enough to care........... LOL
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Post by tattoo on Oct 17, 2019 23:01:45 GMT
that's kind of different from "just plug it in and see if you get a spark." Yep!!!!!!
What that's called in the real world is....... STUPID plain and simple...........
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Post by tattoo on Oct 17, 2019 23:19:03 GMT
I do not claim to be an expert. Sometimes I post ideas, not even sure if it would be feasible, hoping somebody might come back and say it's idiocy, just like you said in previous post. Or maybe somebody that has tried it might come back and say, yes it works, but not very practical, or ... If someone claims it's idiocy,
Ok I'll bite.........
I'm not an expert either as there is a lot I don't know about solar....... But the stuff I don't know or understand about solar is something that I don't want to know about anyways.......
But I do consider myself kind of an expert on a simple solar system......... I don't give two craps about gadgets and apps........
Yep I also agree with you that it's idiocy to put suggestions out there to someone that is new to solar, because you had a dream last night about something that might work.......
That's not rational or helpful at all.................
If you want to blow a bunch of money trying things like you have in the past that didn't work have at it......... But keep it to yourself unless it works for at least 6 months.......
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